Career Corner

Youth court can provide a great learning opportunity for youth who are interested in having a career in a criminal and juvenile justice-related field. Periodically, we post interviews with professionals currently working in various careers related to criminal and juvenile justice. These interviews are meant to provide you guidance and give you additional information about possible career opportunities. Each interview provides information describing the educational requirements for the position, skills that can be learned in youth court that can assist you in the featured career, and personal advice on what you can do if you are interested in pursuing the featured career option. The opinions offered in the interviews are those of the person(s) being interviewed. 

 

Job Title:School Resource Officer

Person Interviewed: Sherrie Free

Sherrie Free is a school resource officer with the Ware Shoals Police Department in South Carolina. She is a youth court coordinator as well as a school resource officer. A big congratulation goes out to Sherrie on April 8, 2004 she received the prestigious award of South Carolina’s School Resource Officer of the Year.

How long have you been a School Resource Officer?
I have been a School Resource Officer (SRO) for 5 years.

What is the difference between being a School Resource Officer and a Police Officer?
My cases deal with juveniles or school- related offenses. I am still bound by law to be a Police Officer.

Does being a School Resource Officer require a college degree?
It did not require a college degree when I started but I think that having a degree in Criminal Justice could be required in the future.

Is an advanced degree or training required?
Yes

Are there any other requirements to being a School Resource Officer?
You must be a Certified Police Officer and go to SRO training to become a certified SRO.

When you were in high school did you know you wanted to be a School Resource Officer?
They did not have SRO’s when I was in school.

If not, what did you want to do?
I wanted to be a Veterinarian.

What led you down this career path?
My father was a Police Officer for Charleston County SC. I knew I wanted a job working with the youth and when this job came open I applied for it.

What was your first job outside of training?
Actually, the same one I have now, at Ware Shoals Police Dept.

How did you obtain a job as a School Resource Officer? 
Our school district decided that it was in the best interest of everyone to have a SRO in our school. The position came open and I applied for it. After interviews with three different committees I was fortunate enough to get the job.

What three things do you like most about your job?
Kids, Kids, and kids!!!

What three things do you like least about your job?

  1. When I have to take a child into custody for breaking the law
  2. Telling a parent that their child has broken the law
  3. Watching children grow up too fast. They don’t take the time to be kids anymore.

What has been your greatest accomplishment while being a School Resource Officer?
My youth court would have to be first. We started 3 years ago. We have heard at least 48 cases and it is with great pride that I say that not one child has re-offended. Another accomplishment was my school, administration, students and police department nominated me for SRO of the year for the state of South Carolina 2004-2005. Guess what? I won!!!

Describe a typical workday.
My work-day begins at 7:30 in the morning. I and my partner Alex (my K-9) who is in the school with me go to the parking lot to make sure all children are driving carefully and have their seatbelts fastened. From there, we go to my office in the high school. I go over cases for youth court, and try to fit in some law related education classes for our students, I am here if any student needs to speak with me. I am in the hall in between classes and outside during lunch. I have three schools so sometimes I have to go to the other school if I am needed there. My work day ends at 3:30 unless we have some problems that have to be solved.

What advice would you give young people who have an interest in becoming a School Resource Officer?
You must love your job. You must love kids and really want to help. Your rewards will come from the heart not the pocketbook.

What skills do you think youth volunteers can learn from their involvement in youth court? 
Public speaking, teamwork, law related education, English.

What aspects of your work experience have prepared you for this job?
The aspects that have prepared me for this job are working with youth all my life and being a mother.

Are you involved in any civic organizations or activities?
I am a member of the International Rodeo Association and I organize our Crimes Night Out program for our town.

What is Crimes Night Out?
Crimes Night Out is a national event. It is usually held at the end of July or the first part of August. Everyone in town turns on their porch lights and meets at the town square. Local law enforcement, fire departments and E.M.S. are all present. There are demonstrations by the departments, along with free hot dogs, ice cream, and a band. It gives professionals and townspeople in the community an opportunity to interact on a personal level and come together for the common cause of deterring crime.

Job Title: Forensic Social Work

Person Interviewed: Angela Tucker

Angela Tucker is a forensic social worker for the Bluegrass Regional Mental Health and Retardation Board located in Lexington, KY. She has been with the unit of Forensic Social Work for two years, which is an affiliate of the local mental health center.

Ms. Tucker how long have you been a social worker?
I have been a social worker for 17 years, working in child protection and medical social work.

What is the difference between being a social worker and being a forensic social worker?
Social workers can work in many fields, including, but not limited to schools, mental health, social welfare, and medical fields. Forensic social workers practice within the criminal justice system with victims of crime or offenders who have been court-ordered into treatment in the community or within a correctional setting. At intake, offenders are given an assessment. During the assessment, they are evaluated for mental health, domestic violence, anger management, and substance abuse issues. Upon completion, offenders are referred to the appropriate treatment option(s).

Does being a forensic social worker require a college degree?
Yes, it requires a Bachelors Degree in Social Work (BSW).

Is an advanced degree required?
Yes, I have a graduate level social work degree and my clinical social work license. An advance degree in some type of counseling field would be beneficial.

Are there any other requirements to be a forensic social worker?
It requires more experience than a beginning mental health social worker. You are typically working with people just out of prison or jail or people who are awaiting sentencing and are potentially going to prison or jail.

Do you have to have any other kind of training, continuing education, or certification?
Yes, as I mentioned, I have my clinical license in social work which requires 200 hours of supervision by a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW). Upon completion, I am required by law to pass a state licensing exam. In addition, I also have a state certification, which allows me to treat court ordered domestic violence offenders.

When you were in high school did you know that you wanted to be a social worker?
I knew I was a “people person.” Everyone came to me to talk and ask for advice. I also took a test that showed I should go in to the behavioral science field.

What was your starting job as a social worker?
I was a child protection worker and began investigating and coordinating child abuse cases. I would coordinate therapy sessions, go to court, and conduct home visits with families. Occasionally, I had to remove children from the home and place them in Kentucky’s foster care system due to cases involving abuse and neglect.  

How many other jobs have you had to get you to where you are now?
I have had three jobs. I worked for the State of Kentucky in child protective services for two years. After receiving my Masters Degree in Social Work (MSW), I worked in a hospital as a medical social worker for six years. I received the required supervision for my clinical license.  

After receiving my clinical license (LCSW ) I worked for the US Army for five years; and I began my job as a forensic social worker two years ago.

How did you become interested in forensic social work?
I wanted to work overseas and travel. One way to do that was to work for the US Army in Germany in their domestic violence treatment program. When I returned stateside, my current job was available.

How do you obtain a job as a forensic social worker? Is your job an elected position?  
I sent in my resume and interviewed for my current job, but it also helped that I had experience in the area already. No, it is not an elected position.

What three things do you like most about your job?
It is challenging.

It allows me to try to help people who need help.

It allows me to keep my skills current in the counseling field.

What three things do you like the least about your job?

  1. We do evening groups. 
  2. With this population you can receive threats.
  3. People may try to intimidate you especially if your recommendations are influencing whether or not they go to jail or prison.

What does a typical day look like for you?
We usually start the day reviewing our cases in a staffing meeting. I usually see 1-3 new cases a week which requires a  2- hour interview and paperwork. I see some clients for 1-hour therapy appointments.  I have at least one 2- hour group a day that has between 6 and 12 people attending. I also supervise 2 people who are trying to get their LCSW.

What advice would you give to young people who wanted to be a forensic social worker?
I would suggest an interest in the criminal justice field and technical skills in interviewing. It really helps to be comfortable with people and confrontation in my job. It also helps to be logical and objective. It requires good writing and organizational skills.

What skills do you feel youth volunteers could learn from their involvement with youth court?
I think seeing that judges and courts deal a lot with family issues versus just murder or assaults or other crimes is good information. For example, we work closely with our local judges for referrals for court ordered treatment either for anger management, domestic violence, or substance abuse. I think it is good to learn how the different systems work together like local mental health agencies and the court system.

Job Title: Attorney

Person Interviewed: Donna Long

Donna Long is an attorney practicing in North Central Kansas; she is a partner in the law firm of Swenson, Vernon, Retter, Uri, Brewer, and Long, Chartered. Mrs. Long has been with the law firm since 1987. 

Mrs. Long, as an attorney in North Central Kansas what do you do?
Not only do I have a general practice, but I also wear lots of different hats, all of which make up pieces of my law practice. I have been appointed by the administrative judge of the judicial district to be the court trustee. As court trustee, I am responsible for monitoring child support payments and collecting child support when it has not been paid. I was also appointed as the city attorney by the city commission of Clay Center, Kansas. As city attorney, I prosecute any case that appears before the municipal court. I also defend clients when I appear as a defense attorney in District Court. I am also a trained mediator for domestic (divorce) cases and assist parents in developing a visitation agreement for their children. 

How long have you been an attorney?
16 years, since 1987

Does being an attorney require a college degree?
If so, what type of a degree do you have? 

Yes, a college degree is required; I have an undergraduate degree in education. But, not only do you have to have a degree you also have to have a graduate law degree. The law degree is called a Jurist Doctorate. 

Are there any other requirements to be an attorney? Do you have to have any other kind of training, continuing education, or certification? If so, what? 
Yes, you must pass the state bar exam, maintain a license, complete the required number of continuing education hours. In Kansas every attorney has to complete 12 hours of continuing legal education each year and additional hours in ethics. 

When you were in high school did you know that you wanted to be an attorney? 
Yes, in high school I did. But, my high school guidance counselor said that I was not being realistic in wanting to practice law because I was a girl. It was recommended that I go into nursing or teaching. 

Is that why you have a degree in education? How many other jobs have you had to get you to where you are now? 
Yes, I received a degree in education because that was recommended. But after I completed my degree there wasn’t a teacher shortage and consequently there weren’t any openings available in education. I lived in Maryland at the time and I went to work for the State of Maryland as an employment counselor. After serving 12 years as a personnel director, I was encouraged (by a man, who later became my husband) to enter law school. I entered law school and graduated from the University of Kansas Law School 1987. 

What three things do you like most about being an attorney?

  1. First of all, I like to help people.
  2. I also like the variety of things I do as an attorney my job is never boring.
  3. I like to feel that I am bringing people to justice.

How would you define Justice?
Justice is an outcome under the law. 

What three things do you like the least about your job?
Sometimes the workload is heavy. 

It is frustrating in that you see the same people repeating offenses over and over again. 

People, both criminal and civil clients, can be downright nasty to work with sometimes. 

What does a typical day look like for you?
There is no such day as a typical day – each day is different. I spend about 25% of my time in court and the rest of the time in preparation work and in meeting with people in my office. 

What was your starting job as an attorney?
I started as an associate working in a law firm. As an associate, I did the work that was given to me to do and I received a set salary. 

Did you advance from one job to another?
Yes, after 5 years I advanced from an associate to being a partner in a law firm. As a partner, I am part owner of the firm, responsible for running the law firm, and I share in the profits of the firm. 

What skills did you learn through involvement in extra curricular activities or youth organizations that you currently use in your career? 
I belonged to Radio Club and it help with public speaking on radio; Girl Scouts also helped with speaking in front of a group and also running a meeting. 

What advice would you give to young people who wanted to be an attorney?
Take courses in public speaking, communications, any kind of writing, debate, English composition, English and American literature. You learn how to write by reading good writing. 

What skills do you feel youth volunteers could learn from their involvement with youth court?
Youth court provides an actual in-court experience as prosecutor or defense counsel, judge or juror; an understanding the legal system and how it works and being comfortable getting up in front of people and speaking.

Job Title: Juvenile Detention Facility Director

Person Interviewed: Lawrence Hicks 

Mr. Hicks has been the Director of the Oklahoma County Juvenile Detention Facility, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma since 1998. 

Mr. Hicks as the Director of the Oklahoma County Juvenile Detention Facility what do you actually do?
I manage an 80-bed facility for juveniles who are in detention prior to a court hearing or waiting placement after adjudication; I also supervise employees, establish policy and procedure, and work with state, county and local officials on issues related to juvenile detention.

Does being the director of a detention center require a college degree? If so, what type of a degree do you have?
Yes, it does require a college degree. Usually the job requires a person with a degree in criminal justice, sociology, psychology, or social work. I hold a Bachelor’s Degree of Science and Business (BSB), Bachelor’s Degree Business of Science and Education (BSE) and a Masters of Science (MS) in Guidance and Counseling. 

Did you know in high school or college what career you wanted to pursue?
Absolutely not, well I did, kind of, but it wasn’t this one. I was going to be a businessperson and I was trained to teach business. 

If you were trained to teach business how did your career interest change from business to criminal justice?
I was offered a job as a parole officer because of my master’s degree in counseling. At that time counseling and behavior change was more important than law enforcement skill in working with offenders. And over twenty-five years later, I am still in the criminal justice field. I have continued to fulfill my business interests by owning several rental properties that are managed by other people. 

How many other jobs have you held to get you to where you are now?
I was a parole officer with the Kansas Department of Corrections for 5 years. I then transferred to the Kansas State Penitentiary at Lansing, KS where I entered as a caseworker and through 15 years of service I advanced to be the Director of Classification and eventually Deputy Warden. I moved to New Mexico and was Deputy Warden of the New Mexico State Penitentiary. I retired from adult system and began working with juveniles. 

As a juvenile detention facility director, are you required to have any other kind of training, continuing education, or certification? If so what? 
I am required to complete 40 hours of continuing education each year. 

What three things do you like most about your job?
I like watching the staff enter at an entry-level position and advance to a higher-level positions both in and out of the agency. Almost all the staff we hire are college graduates, but they do not have any experience, I enjoy watching them grow. 

I like developing programs that will meet the needs of the juveniles that we serve.

I like the interaction with governmental and community leaders and making sure the facility meets the needs of the community.

What three things do you like the least about your job?

  1. I do not like staff disciplinary action,
  2. bureaucratic minutia, and
  3. inappropriate pay for staff services.

What does a typical day look like for you?
I review the previous day activities, meet with immediate staff regarding residents, and meet with other departments within the bureau to coordinate our services. 

What skills did you learn through involvement in extra curricular activities or youth organizations that you currently use in your career?
I learned leadership skills through athletics and extra curricular activities such as being the class president. Always remember that if you are the class president your last year in school, you will always be in charge of class reunions. 

What advice would you give to young people who wanted to be a parole officer or involved in the criminal justice system? 
Get out and experience life and that will make you better at what you decide to do. 

What skills do you feel youth volunteers could learn from their involvement with youth court?
I think anyone involved in youth court would learn decision-making, value judgment, the ability to objectively view a situation, compassion, and commitment.

Job Title: {bcanchor:Probation_Officer,Probation Officer

Person Interviewed: Melissa Callahan

Melissa Callahan is a probation officer working in the District Probation Office located in Marietta, Georgia. Ms. Callahan has been a probation officer for over 20 years. 

Ms. Callahan, as a probation officer in Marietta, Georgia what do you do?

I manage a caseload of adult felony offenders who are sentenced by the Superior Court of Georgia and I monitor their compliance with conditions of probation as ordered by the court.

How old are the offenders that you supervise and what types of offenses did they commit? 

I supervise adult offenders from age 17 and up. The offenses they were convicted of were felony offenses, or offenses that would require a sentence of one or more years in the state penitentiary. Typical offenses would include, but not be limited to: theft, burglary, possession or sale of drugs, assault, domestic violence, and alcohol related offenses. 

Did you know in high school that you wanted to be a probation officer? 

No, in fact I didn’t even know what a probation officer was in high school. 

When you started college, did you know what you wanted to do? 

Yes, I was a psychology major and wanted to go to graduate school to pursue a degree in psychological testing. 

How did your plans change?

Before I could start graduate school I needed to get a job and I took an entry-level position with the court system in their pre-trial program and worked ended up working there for 7 yrs. We moved to South Georgia and I looked for a job in the court system but they didn’t have a pre-trial program. I was able to obtain a job as a probation officer. I have now been a probation officer for over 20 years. 

Does your job as a probation officer require a college degree?

Yes, a degree is required and it is suggested that the degree be in criminal justice, sociology, psychology or social work. 

Is an advanced or graduate degree required? 

No, graduate degrees in specific area of interest, such as counseling, addiction, or the administration of justice may be beneficial for advancement but they are not required. 

Does your job require any other kind of training, continuing education, or certification?

Yes, In Georgia, each person hired must complete a 4 week Basic Probation Officer Training during their first year of employment and be firearm certified. Each following year probation officers must complete a minimum of 20 hours in-service and qualify for firearms.

What three things do you like most about your job? 

I get to work with various types of people from all socio-economic levels,

Seeing the working of the court system, working with judges, attorneys

My day-to-day activities are always changing. 

What three things do you like the least about your job?

Paperwork

Drug testing

Uncooperative clients

What does a typical day look like for you?

There is not a typical day. Each day varies. Some days I may attend court, or have report days, I may write reports, prepare case plans, or conduct field visits and contact probationers at their home, employment, or in jail. 

What skills did you learn through involvement in extra curricular activities or youth organizations that you currently use in your career? 

I was Editor of yearbook in high school and college. This helped me learn to work with a group of people towards a common goal, writing and editing skills, and was a leadership opportunity. I also belonged to service clubs because my parents instilled in me that is was important to give back to your community. 

What advice would you give to young people who wanted to be a probation officer? 

Do not violate the criminal laws of any governmental unit. Criminal convictions are permanent and you cannot be hired as a probation officer with a criminal history. You should be aware of the consequences of your behavior. The consequences of your behavior and the behavior of the people you associate with will follow you. In college – take classes related to criminal justice, psychology, and sociology. If possible serve as an intern in a probation office to see what a probation officer does to determine if that is what you want to do. 

What skills could be learned from being involved in youth court that could assist you as a probation officer? 

Learning how the justice system works, why it is important to hold people accountable for their behavior, and the importance of repairing the harm to victims of crime.

Job Title: {bcanchor:United_States_Attorney,United States Attorney

Person Interviewed: John G. Duncan

John Duncan is the Executive Assistant United States Attorney for the Northern District of New York and located in Syracuse, New York

How long have you been a US Attorney?

Sixteen years. I started in February of 1988.

What is the difference between being a U. S. Attorney and being a regular attorney? 

A private attorney usually represents individual clients in civil or criminal actions. As United States Attorneys, or federal prosecutors, as we are sometimes called, we are employees of the U.S. Department of Justice. In this position we are responsible for the investigation and prosecution of individuals and organizations who commit federal crimes. We also have Assistant U.S. Attorneys who represent the United States government in a wide variety of civil litigation. 

Do you work in a specialized area? 

I work exclusively in the criminal area. Federal criminal cases encompass a wide variety of offenses including drugs, firearms, bank fraud, counterfeiting, alien smuggling, and organized crime to name just a few. Since 9-11, federal prosecutors are also involved in identifying and prosecuting offenses involving terrorism. 

How is someone selected to become a U.S. Attorney?

In each of the 94 federal districts there is one United States Attorney who is appointed by the President and serves under the Attorney General. The United States Attorney is the chief federal law enforcement officer in each federal district. The U. S. Attorney is supported by a number of Assistant U.S. Attorneys in each office.

How are Assistant U.S. Attorneys selected? 

Lawyers who want to become federal prosecutors apply directly to U.S. Attorney’s offices located in each state or to the U.S. Department of Justice in Washington, D.C. Most offices have selection committees that examine the academic background and experience of the attorneys who apply and make hiring recommendations to the U.S. Attorney.

Does being an attorney require a college degree?

Yes, a college degree and a law degree.

Where did you go to college and what type of a degree do you have? 

I graduated from the State University of New York in Buffalo. I received a Bachelor of Science in Economics. I also hold a Juris Doctor from the Syracuse University College of Law. 

Are there any other requirements to be an attorney? 

Yes. To be a licensed attorney in any state you must also pass a state bar exam. Each state also has a character committee. In addition to passing the state bar exam you must also be determined to be a person of good character. If a person passes a bar exam but has a past criminal conviction, say for possession of drugs, they may be determined not to be a person of good character and not allowed to practice law. 

Are there any additional requirements to be an Assistant United States Attorney?

To qualify as a federal prosecutor, you must pass a background check conducted by FBI. In general, the U.S. Department of Justice seeks out lawyers who have an excellent academic background, some legal experience, and are interested in trying cases. Frequently state prosecutors with criminal trial experience, like myself, apply to become Assistant U.S. Attorneys.

When you were in high school did you know that you wanted to be an attorney?

No, I thought I wanted to be an electrical engineer. I had done very well in math and science and had an interest in engineering. I took a number of engineering courses, but decided that I did not really want to pursue engineering as a career. I switched my major to economics and found it to be very interesting and intellectually challenging. While in college, a family friend, who was a lawyer, hired me to work part-time in his law office during the summer. I enjoyed this experience so much I decided to pursue law school after getting my undergraduate degree.

After graduating from college, I first enlisted in the U.S. Army. After completing my military service, I entered law school using the GI bill to pay for part of my law school education. I don’t think I would have gotten through law school without it. 

How many other jobs have you had to get you to where you are now? 

I was in private practice for 3 years doing both civil and criminal legal work. Then I joined the local district attorneys office so I could get more trial experience. I spent the next ten years trying a large number of criminal cases. In 1988, I left as Chief Assistant District Attorney for Onondaga County, New York and joined the U.S. Attorney’s Office.

What does a typical day look like for you?

It is different every day, which makes it interesting. Many of us work on investigations with the DEA, FBI, ATF, Secret Service, or other federal investigators. Other days we will be responding to written motions that are filed with the district court or have witnesses testify before the grand jury. At other times we are preparing for trial or actually in trial. I also enjoy spending some of my time working with community-based prevention programs such as youth court.

What three things do you like most about your job? 

Each criminal case always presents new challenges – no two cases are ever alike. 

I like getting into the courtroom to try cases, and

I like working in the crime prevention area.

What three things do you like the least about your job? 

I really don’t have anything significant that I dislike about my job. That is what is great about it.

What skills did you learn through involvement in extra curricular activities or youth organizations (school, church, or youth groups) that you currently use in your career? 

In college, I joined the debate club to develop my speaking abilities. In law school, I became chair of the Moot Court Board where I further developed my ability to not only speak, but also think on my feet.

What advice would you give to young people who wanted to be an attorney?

Read a lot, learn to write well, develop good oral communication skills, and take courses that allow you to analyze issues. 

What skills do you feel youth volunteers could learn from their involvement with youth court?

They definitely learn how to assess facts and make knowledgeable and persuasive arguments to the jury. This is an excellent skill to develop whether you go into the law or any other career.

Job Title: {bcanchor:Superintendent_of_Security_Operations,Superintendent of Security Operations

Person Interviewed: Gary Dodson

Gary Dodson is the Superintendent of Security Operations for the Tualatin Hills Park and Recreation District located in Beaverton, Oregon.

How long have you been the Superintendent of Security Operations?

Fourteen months, I started in January of 2003 after retiring as a Lieutenant with 27 years of service with the Beaverton Police Department in Beaverton, Oregon.

What were your responsibilities with the Beaverton Police Dept?

I started working as a patrol officer, I was also a field training officer, assigned to the Street Crimes unit, DARE officer, School Resource officer, K-9 handler, assigned to the Community Policing unit. I supervised and eventually managed the Community Policing unit for the police department. While in that position I oversaw and was responsible for recruitment/hiring, training division, volunteer program, police reserve and cadet programs, and was coordinator of the department’s youth-peer court.

How can someone become a law enforcement officer?

Qualifications and standards related to age and education are set by each individual agency in every state. Generally a person must be 21 years of age with at least a high school education and in some circumstances 2 – 4 years of college is required. You must be able to pass a background investigation, physical agility test, and a psychological evaluation.

Does being a law enforcement officer require a college degree?

Not all law enforcement agencies require a degree to begin service. However, special assignments and promotions within a law enforcement agency may have requirements and prerequisites for a specific time in service, additional training, specific assignment requirements, and in some cases more formal education.

Where did you go to college and what type of a degree do you have?

I went to Oregon State University and majored in Physical Education. I left school to go into the military. After the returning from the service, I went to Portland Community College and received my AA degree in Criminal Justice. Currently I am a few hours short of receiving my BS degree in political science.

Did you have a degree before you became a law enforcement officer?

No, when I originally started only a high school education was required. It took me 13 years before I actually completed my AA degree. However by today’s standards at the Beaverton Police Department I would have been required to have at least 90 credit hours before being hired.

When you were in high school did you know that you wanted to be a law enforcement officer?

No, I wanted to be a coach and a physical education teacher. I started college after graduating from high school. The summer between my freshman and sophomore year of college I was a baseball coach for the park district. The fathers of two of my players were police officers and invited me on a “ride-along” and I was hooked after that. The thing that I found most interesting about police work was that not one day was ever going to be the same and you never knew what was going to happen, or what you would be dealing with.

If you started college after high school why didn’t you finish your degree?

I became dissatisfied with college and because of my interest in law enforcement I went to work for the Beaverton Police Department as a dispatcher. Because I was no longer in school, I lost my draft deferment and was called into military service.

How many other jobs have you had to get you to where you are now?

1971 - 1972 dispatcher for Beaverton Police Department, Beaverton, OR

1973 – 1976 U.S. Army

1976 – 1978 Hillsboro Police Department, Hillsboro, OR

1978 - 2003 Beaverton Police Department, Beaverton, OR

2003 – Present Superintendent of Security Operations for the Tualatin Hills Park and Recreation District and located in Beaverton, Oregon.

What does a typical day as a law enforcement officer look like?

It depends upon your assignment; you never know what you were going to get involved with that day, or what was going to happen. You responded as necessary depending upon the activity you were working.

What three things do you like most about your job?

Not knowing what to expert. It was never boring, the excitement of each day.

The opportunity to protect and serve the community you live in.

Knowing that the things that you did, no matter how small, could make a difference in someone’s life.

What three things do you like the least about your job?

Sometimes, the hours and working holidays.

The effect that the job can have on your family.

When I would go to court for a trial, I would sometimes feel that I was the person on trial and not the person who had committed the crime.

What skills did you learn through involvement in extra curricular activities or youth organizations (school, church, or youth groups) that you currently use in your career?

The discipline in athletics and sports taught me how to become a team player. Communication with youth and adults alike, and how to be a good listener. Your word had to be gold; if you told someone you were going to do something you needed to do it.

What advice would you give to young people who wanted to be a law enforcement officer?

I would tell them that they should get a college education, learn a second language, and realize that being a law enforcement officer is not necessarily what it is depicted like on TV and in the movies. There are many areas of law enforcement on the federal, state and local level that you need to look at and find an area that interests you.

What skills do you feel youth volunteers could learn from their involvement with youth court?

Youth volunteers understand the judicial process; they learn to use personal skills such as communication, listening, and understanding; and they learn accountability, responsibility, and consequences for actions.

Job Title : {bcanchor:Judge,Judge

Person Interviewed: Frank Sullivan

Judge Sullivan is an appointed specialty court judge for the 8th Judicial District Court, Family Division, Clark County, Nevada. Judge Sullivan’s court is located in Las Vegas and focuses on juvenile and domestic violence issues.

Judge Sullivan how long have you been a judge?

4 years, I was appointed as the judge for the juvenile and domestic specialty court in December of 2000.

Does being a judge require a college degree? If so what type of a degree do you have?

Yes, being a judge requires a degree and a law degree.

Where did you go to college?

I attended North East Illinois University and I completed an undergraduate degree for teaching 1975.

You taught before becoming an attorney?

Yes, I taught high school civics or government.

When you were in high school did you know that you wanted to be an attorney or a judge?

Absolutely not. I had no interest in law or being a judge – I always wanted to be a teacher.

How did you go from being a teacher to an attorney?

I was a school teacher for 10 years in Chicago. I went into school administration and was even a principal. I had a family of six, and decided that teachers and administrators are not paid enough so for financial reasons I started to look at different options for a career. I didn’t want to be a doctor because I didn’t like the sight of blood, and I didn’t want to be a dentist because I didn’t want to put my hands into other people’s mouths. I was good with my ability to speak and I decided to become a lawyer. Because I still like to teach, I teach a class in law at the University of Las Vegas, UNLV.

Does being a judge require an advanced degree?

Yes, I completed my Jurist Doctorate from DePaul University, Chicago Illinois in 1984.

Are there any other requirements to be a judge? Do you have to have any other kind of training, continuing education, or certification. If so, what?

Yes, you have to pass the bar examination and be a member in good standing in the bar, maintain your bar license, complete 12 hours of continuing education each year, plus a course in ethics.

What was your starting job as an attorney?

While I was in law school, I was a law clerk. After passing the bar I went into partnership with a private practitioner.

How many other jobs have you had to get you to where you are now? What were they?

After being a partner in a small firm, I was a deputy attorney general for the state of Nevada. I represented the state in cases that involved abused, neglected and abandoned children. Following being in the attorney general’s office I was in-house counsel for a corporate firm for 10 years. Because of my experience with cases that involved abused and neglected children I also served part-time as a judge protem (temporary judge) for the juvenile drug court.

How do you obtain a job as a judge? Is your job an elected position?

In 1995 I was asked to be a part-time judge in abuse and neglect cases and in December of 2000, I was appointed by the Clark County Commissioners as a full time judge for the domestic violence and juvenile court. Other judges in Clark County are elected, but because I am a judge for a specialty court, I was appointed.

What three things do you like most about being a judge?

Providing assistance to victims of domestic violence and child abuse

Helping provide services to youth overcome problems within the juvenile system

Playing a leadership role in the community; and improving the lives of the families in Clark County

What three things do you like the least about being a judge?

The emotional drain caused by working with cases involving child abuse, neglect, and domestic violence.

The extremely heavy workload. I will see almost 5800 cases this year alone, resulting in very long work days of 10 – 12 hours per day.

I can become jaded - I don’t see the good students; I always see people at their worst.

What does a typical day look like for you?

I start the day reviewing the paperwork that is filed every day for the court. I then prepare for the afternoon calendar in court by the reviewing the court cases that will be heard. I preside over the court calendar and proceedings which takes 4-5 hours. After hours duties include hearings for people arrested for domestic violence cases after 5:00 p.m., and emergency night duty for any arrest at night.

What skills or abilities that you use now in your daily life did you learn through involvement in extra curricular activities or youth organizations (school, church, or youth groups) that you currently use in your career?

I learned how to initiate interest in an issue – through public speaking, how to create interest in a particular area. I learned how to take a leadership role, run a group, use organizational skills, and how to use conflict resolution skills to reach a consensus with a group. The only way you can learn that is in extra curricular activities.

What advice would you give to young people who want to be a judge?

Learn communication skills, in both writing and speaking. As a judge, you need to communicate why you are making the decision. You need to be comfortable with public speaking. Take courses in organization, any training in business the way you structure your organization. As a judge you work with bailiffs, clerks, attorneys, you have dockets of cases, case files, and you need organization.

What skills do you feel youth volunteers could learn from their involvement with youth court that would help them in a future career?

Self confidence – kids develop from being shy, whether they are in the jury or an attorney

Responsibility – they learn to be on time and be prepared for their case

Accountability – consequences for conduct

Community Involvement – they learn to be productive member of society